Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8/8.1

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda jedy48 » 17 mag 2016 20:10

Ma come si può permettere che qualcuno ti obblighi a un passaggio di sistema operativo anche se non vuoi?
Non vedo "obblighi" .... basta leggere l'articolo.
quindi se ne deduce che rimane gratuito a vita, perchè se me lo istalli a MIA insaputa e mi danneggi potrei chiederti anche i danni
Non ho capito il commento .... comunque:
1) non è gratuito (in fondo utilizzi una licenza che hai pagato a suo tempo);
2) vale lo stesso discorso fatto per pegasov: basta leggere l'articolo:
Coloro che fossero interessati a posticipare ancora l'aggiornamento dei propri sistemi a Windows 10, è bene che controllino periodicamente l'eventuale programmazione dell'update agendo sull'icona visualizzata nella traybar del sistema operativo.
Usando il tool gratuito GWX Control Panel (vedere Rimandare aggiornamento a Windows 10, come fare) è poi possibile evitare l'aggiornamento fintanto che non si deciderà di effettuarlo in proprio (ad esempio usando il Media Creation Tool (Scaricare Windows 7, Windows 8.1 e Windows 10 dai server Microsoft) oppure questo strumento Microsoft).
..... ma, anche, non installarlo per nulla.

La domanda è: Vale la pena NON aggiornare? .... la risposta è NO :nono:
esempio ho un pc con windows 10 enterprise ltsb e uno con windows 8.1 pro che mi piace più di 10 perchè non posso stare con quello fino a che voglio io? il portatile con seven perchè mettere 10 col rischio che tante cose essendo vecchio di 6 anni ?
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda pegasocv » 17 mag 2016 20:20

Ma come si può permettere che qualcuno ti obblighi a un passaggio di sistema operativo anche se non vuoi?
Non vedo "obblighi" .... basta leggere l'articolo.
...
Concordo che uno possa disattivare l'aggiornamento, lo facevamo già, ma per me è proprio il principio che non mi piace, poi va a toccare il grosso degli utenti, quelli che non sanno nemmeno dell'esistenza degli strumenti per eliminare l'aggiornamento e non sanno nemmeno che Microsoft gli programmerà in automatico l'aggiornamento. A prescindere che uno preferisca un sistema operativo piuttosto che un'altro, non trovo proprio giusto il principio, sono d'accordo che mi avvisi che c'è questo nuovo meraviglioso, stupendo, miracoloso sistema operativo, ma se poi ti dico "No grazie", per me deve finire li, ho detto NO, e no deve essere; invece in questo modo continuano a tartassare e adesso anche programma al mio posto quando aggiornarmi il sistema operativo... ci sarà qualcosa che mi sfugge ma per me è il principio, il modo di comportarsi che è sbagliato.

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda jedy48 » 17 mag 2016 23:06

Ma come si può permettere che qualcuno ti obblighi a un passaggio di sistema operativo anche se non vuoi?
Non vedo "obblighi" .... basta leggere l'articolo.
...
Concordo che uno possa disattivare l'aggiornamento, lo facevamo già, ma per me è proprio il principio che non mi piace, poi va a toccare il grosso degli utenti, quelli che non sanno nemmeno dell'esistenza degli strumenti per eliminare l'aggiornamento e non sanno nemmeno che Microsoft gli programmerà in automatico l'aggiornamento. A prescindere che uno preferisca un sistema operativo piuttosto che un'altro, non trovo proprio giusto il principio, sono d'accordo che mi avvisi che c'è questo nuovo meraviglioso, stupendo, miracoloso sistema operativo, ma se poi ti dico "No grazie", per me deve finire li, ho detto NO, e no deve essere; invece in questo modo continuano a tartassare e adesso anche programma al mio posto quando aggiornarmi il sistema operativo... ci sarà qualcosa che mi sfugge ma per me è il principio, il modo di comportarsi che è sbagliato.
quoto, secondo me è sbagliato e anche ILLEGALE, ho pagato per acquistare un sistema e te arbitrariamente me lo cambi? ok mi RIMBORSI i soldi che ho speso :matto:
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda Gustavo » 18 mag 2016 12:14

riguardo al presunto stalking da parte di windows 10 verso chi ha ancora 7/8/8.1... è proprio da lì che parte il tema di questa discussione :okdx:

segnalo di aver testato il nuovo WUMT un pò su tutte le mie installazioni di 7 e funziona correttamente.

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda jedy48 » 18 mag 2016 16:05

uscito l'update cumulativo di windows 7 dal SP1 fino ad aprile 2016, finito di scaricare ora
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda [Claudio] » 24 mag 2016 12:02

Segnalo, a favore dei "Resistenti": Never10, sviluppato da Steve Gibson.

A spanne, mi sembra migliore di GWX Control Panel.
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda Gustavo » 29 mag 2016 11:53

installo due update su quattro

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in cyano quelli che fanno riferimento a windows 10 (da non installare)

Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3123862" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda pegasocv » 30 mag 2016 15:54

Ciao gente,
probabilmente mi è sfuggito, ma usando WINDOWS UPDATE MINITOOL non riesco a capire come devo fare per mostrare nuovamente gli aggiornamenti nascosti. E' possibile renderli nuovamente visibili? :confuso:

P.S. ho capito come fare. Per i posteri... vado nella sezione degli aggiornamenti nascosti, seleziono quello che mi interessa e clicco il tasto nascondi.

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda Gustavo » 30 mag 2016 18:55

cosa succede se installo i convenience rollup packages dal punto di vista telemetria?
seguo l'articolo di Michele su un W7 SP1 home premium appena installato:

1) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/ ... kb/3020369" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2) seleziono il pacchetto a 32bit da 316MB - Update for Windows 7 (KB3125574) - che rimpiazza i seguenti update:

Codice: Seleziona tutto

Update for Windows 7 (KB2574819)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2607047)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2607576)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2639308)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2640148)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2647753)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2660075)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2679255)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2699779)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2709630)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2709981)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2719857)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2726535)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2731771)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2732059)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2732487)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2732500)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2735855)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2739159)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2741355)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2749655)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2756822)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2760730)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2762895)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2763523)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2773072)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2779562)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2786081)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2786400)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2791765)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2794119)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2798162)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2799926)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2800095)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2808679)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2813956)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2829104)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2830477)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2834140)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2835174)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2836502)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2843630)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2846960)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2846960)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2847077)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2852386)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2853952)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2863058)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2868116)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2882822)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2888049)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2890882)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2891804)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2893519)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2904266)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2905454)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2908783)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2913152)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2913431)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2913751)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2918077)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2919469)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2922717)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2923398)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2923545)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2928562)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2929733)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2929755)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2966583)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2970228)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2973337)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2977728)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2978092)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2980245)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2981580)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2985461)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2994023)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2998527)
Update for Windows 7 (KB2999226)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3000988)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3001554)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3004394)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3005788)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3006121)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3006137)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3006625)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3008627)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3009736)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3013410)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3013531)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3014406)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3020338)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3020370)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3040272)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3045645)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3048761)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3049874)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3054476)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3065979)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3068708)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3075249)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3077715)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3078667)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3080079)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3080149)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3081954)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3092627)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3095649)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3102429)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3107998)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3112148)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3118401)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3121255)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3133977)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3137061)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3138378)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3138901)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3147071)
Update for Windows 7 (KB3148851)
Immagine

3) finito il download installo , riavvio (con WU disattivato)

Immagine

4) e inizio subito i passaggi:

GWX da sistemare

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remove_MS_telemetry.CMD , è andato sensibilmente più veloce del solito

Codice: Seleziona tutto

[i] Uninstall evil M$ updates..
[15:50:35.70] Uninstall update KB3080149..
[15:50:36.44] Update KB3080149 not installed
[15:50:36.45] Uninstall update KB3075249..
[15:50:37.40] Update KB3075249 not installed
[15:50:37.40] Uninstall update KB2952664..
[15:50:38.06] Update KB2952664 not installed
[15:50:38.06] Uninstall update KB3035583..
[15:50:38.73] Update KB3035583 not installed
[15:50:38.73] Uninstall update KB3068708..
[15:50:39.40] Update KB3068708 not installed
[15:50:39.40] Uninstall update KB3022345..
[15:50:40.12] Update KB3022345 not installed
[15:50:40.12] Uninstall update KB3021917..
[15:50:40.77] Update KB3021917 not installed
[15:50:40.79] Uninstall update KB2976978..
[15:50:41.49] Update KB2976978 not installed
[15:50:41.49] Uninstall update KB3044374..
[15:50:42.15] Update KB3044374 not installed
[15:50:42.15] Uninstall update KB2990214..
[15:50:42.86] Update KB2990214 not installed
[15:50:42.88] Uninstall update KB971033..
[15:50:49.28] Uninstall update KB3075851..
[15:50:50.02] Update KB3075851 not installed
[15:50:50.04] Uninstall update KB3065988..
[15:50:50.80] Update KB3065988 not installed
[15:50:50.80] Uninstall update KB3083325..
[15:50:51.54] Update KB3083325 not installed
[15:50:51.55] Uninstall update KB3083324..
[15:50:52.21] Update KB3083324 not installed
[15:50:52.22] Uninstall update KB3075853..
[15:50:52.96] Update KB3075853 not installed
[15:50:52.96] Uninstall update KB3065987..
[15:50:53.55] Update KB3065987 not installed
[15:50:53.55] Uninstall update KB3050265..
[15:50:54.42] Update KB3050265 not installed
[15:50:54.42] Uninstall update KB3050267..
[15:50:55.52] Update KB3050267 not installed
[15:50:55.52] Uninstall update KB3046480..
[15:50:56.20] Update KB3046480 not installed
[15:50:56.22] Uninstall update KB2882822..
[15:50:56.98] Update KB2882822 not installed
[15:50:56.98] Uninstall update KB3083710..
[15:50:57.73] Update KB3083710 not installed
[15:50:57.73] Uninstall update KB3083711..
[15:50:58.46] Update KB3083711 not installed
[15:50:58.48] Uninstall update KB3112343..
[15:50:59.20] Update KB3112343 not installed
[15:50:59.20] Uninstall update KB3112336..
[15:50:59.98] Update KB3112336 not installed
[15:50:59.98] Uninstall update KB3135445..
[15:51:00.71] Update KB3135445 not installed
[15:51:00.73] Uninstall update KB3123862..
[15:51:01.41] Update KB3123862 not installed

[i] Disable (hide) uninstalled updates..
[Notice] It can take a lot of time - wait please, or use -d flag for disable this feature..
[Install update] Install PowerShell module 'PSWindowsUpdate'
[15:51:01.44] Download unzip tool..
[15:51:07.14] Download PowerShell module 'PSWindowsUpdate'..
[15:51:10.93] Unzip module archive..
[15:51:10.96] Move module files to PowerShell modules directory..
[Installation complete] 'PSWindowsUpdate' module for PowerShell installed
[15:51:14.16] Disable updates: KB3080149,KB3075249,KB2952664,KB3035583,KB3068708,KB3022345,KB3021917,KB2976978,KB3044374,KB2990214,KB971033,KB3075851,KB3065988,KB3083325,KB3083324,KB3075853,KB3065987,KB3050265,KB3050267,KB3046480,KB2882822,KB3083710,KB3083711,KB3112343,KB3112336,KB3135445,KB3123862..
[16:03:08.52] Updates successfully DISABLED

[i] Disable some windows tasks..
[16:03:08.52] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\AitAgent
[16:03:08.60] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser
[16:03:08.61] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater
[16:03:08.63] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy
[16:03:08.66] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator
[16:03:08.71] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\KernelCeipTask
[16:03:08.77] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\UsbCeip
[16:03:08.85] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
[16:03:08.89] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\PI\Sqm-Tasks
[16:03:08.91] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Power Efficiency Diagnostics\AnalyzeSystem
[16:03:08.96] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\QueueReporting
[16:03:08.99] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance\WinSAT
[16:03:09.02] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ActivateWindowsSearch
[16:03:09.03] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ConfigureInternetTimeService
[16:03:09.06] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\DispatchRecoveryTasks
[16:03:09.10] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ehDRMInit
[16:03:09.16] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\InstallPlayReady
[16:03:09.24] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\mcupdate
[16:03:09.30] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\MediaCenterRecoveryTask
[16:03:09.35] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ObjectStoreRecoveryTask
[16:03:09.38] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURActivate
[16:03:09.42] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURDiscovery
[16:03:09.45] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscovery
[16:03:09.50] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW1
[16:03:09.60] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW2
[16:03:09.66] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrRecoveryTask
[16:03:09.70] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrScheduleTask
[16:03:09.74] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\RegisterSearch
[16:03:09.77] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ReindexSearchRoot
[16:03:09.78] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\SqlLiteRecoveryTask
[16:03:09.81] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\UpdateRecordPath

[i] Disable services..
[16:03:09.86] Disable service 'Diagtrack'
[16:03:10.02] Service 'Diagtrack' disabled successful
[16:03:10.02] Disable service 'dmwappushservice'
[16:03:10.03] Service 'dmwappushservice' not installed
[16:03:10.05] Disable service 'WerSvc'
[16:03:10.08] Service 'WerSvc' disabled successful

[i] Block M$ servers IP addresses..
[16:03:10.20] Block route to 111.221.29.177
[16:03:10.23] Block route to 111.221.29.253
[16:03:10.23] Block route to 131.253.40.37
[16:03:10.25] Block route to 134.170.30.202
[16:03:10.25] Block route to 134.170.115.60
[16:03:10.27] Block route to 134.170.165.248
[16:03:10.28] Block route to 134.170.165.253
[16:03:10.28] Block route to 134.170.185.70
[16:03:10.30] Block route to 137.116.81.24
[16:03:10.33] Block route to 137.117.235.16
[16:03:10.34] Block route to 157.55.129.21
[16:03:10.36] Block route to 157.55.133.204
[16:03:10.36] Block route to 157.56.121.89
[16:03:10.38] Block route to 157.56.91.77
[16:03:10.39] Block route to 168.63.108.233
[16:03:10.44] Block route to 184.86.56.12
[16:03:10.47] Block route to 185.13.160.61
[16:03:10.48] Block route to 191.232.139.254
[16:03:10.48] Block route to 191.232.80.58
[16:03:10.50] Block route to 191.232.80.62
[16:03:10.52] Block route to 191.237.208.126
[16:03:10.53] Block route to 204.79.197.200
[16:03:10.53] Block route to 207.46.101.29
[16:03:10.56] Block route to 207.46.114.58
[16:03:10.58] Block route to 207.46.223.94
[16:03:10.59] Block route to 207.68.166.254
[16:03:10.62] Block route to 212.30.134.204
[16:03:10.64] Block route to 212.30.134.205
[16:03:10.66] Block route to 23.102.21.4
[16:03:10.67] Block route to 23.99.10.11
[16:03:10.69] Block route to 23.218.212.69
[16:03:10.70] Block route to 64.4.54.22
[16:03:10.70] Block route to 64.4.54.32
[16:03:10.72] Block route to 64.4.6.100
[16:03:10.73] Block route to 65.39.117.230
[16:03:10.75] Block route to 65.52.100.11
[16:03:10.75] Block route to 65.52.100.7
[16:03:10.77] Block route to 65.52.100.9
[16:03:10.78] Block route to 65.52.100.91
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[16:03:10.84] Block route to 65.52.100.94
[16:03:10.86] Block route to 65.52.108.29
[16:03:10.86] Block route to 65.55.108.23
[16:03:10.87] Block route to 65.55.138.114
[16:03:10.89] Block route to 65.55.138.126
[16:03:10.91] Block route to 65.55.138.186
[16:03:10.91] Block route to 65.55.252.63
[16:03:10.92] Block route to 65.55.252.71
[16:03:10.94] Block route to 65.55.252.92
[16:03:10.94] Block route to 65.55.252.93
[16:03:10.95] Block route to 65.55.29.238
[16:03:10.97] Block route to 65.55.39.10

[i] Add blocked IP adressess to firewall rule..
[16:03:11.22] IP adresses blocked with firewall rule 'Block MS Telemetry': '111.221.29.177,111.221.29.253,131.253.40.37,134.170.30.202,134.170.115.60,134.170.165.248,134.170.165.253,134.170.185.70,137.116.81.24,137.117.235.16,157.55.129.21,157.55.133.204,157.56.121.89,157.56.91.77,168.63.108.233,184.86.56.12,185.13.160.61,191.232.139.254,191.232.80.58,191.232.80.62,191.237.208.126,204.79.197.200,207.46.101.29,207.46.114.58,207.46.223.94,207.68.166.254,212.30.134.204,212.30.134.205,23.102.21.4,23.99.10.11,23.218.212.69,64.4.54.22,64.4.54.32,64.4.6.100,65.39.117.230,65.52.100.11,65.52.100.7,65.52.100.9,65.52.100.91,65.52.100.92,65.52.100.93,65.52.100.94,65.52.108.29,65.55.108.23,65.55.138.114,65.55.138.126,65.55.138.186,65.55.252.63,65.55.252.71,65.55.252.92,65.55.252.93,65.55.29.238,65.55.39.10'

[i] Find and add M$ domains to HOSTS file (block)..
[16:03:11.30] Domain msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.31] Domain a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.33] Domain a-0001.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.34] Domain a-0002.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.36] Domain a-0003.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.39] Domain a-0004.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.40] Domain a-0005.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.40] Domain a-0006.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.42] Domain a-0007.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.44] Domain a-0008.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.45] Domain a-0009.a-msedge.net ADDED
[16:03:11.47] Domain a1095.g2.akamai.net ADDED
[16:03:11.47] Domain ad.doubleclick.net ADDED
[16:03:11.48] Domain adnexus.net ADDED
[16:03:11.50] Domain adnxs.com ADDED
[16:03:11.51] Domain secure.adnxs.com ADDED
[16:03:11.51] Domain m.adnxs.com ADDED
[16:03:11.53] Domain ads1.msads.net ADDED
[16:03:11.55] Domain ads1.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.58] Domain ads2.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.58] Domain flex.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.59] Domain g.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.61] Domain h2.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.62] Domain h1.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.64] Domain a.ads1.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.65] Domain a.ads2.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.67] Domain a.ads2.msads.net ADDED
[16:03:11.69] Domain live.rads.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.70] Domain ads2.msn.com.c.footprint.net ADDED
[16:03:11.72] Domain aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de ADDED
[16:03:11.73] Domain az361816.vo.msecnd.net ADDED
[16:03:11.75] Domain az512334.vo.msecnd.net ADDED
[16:03:11.76] Domain bs.serving-sys.com ADDED
[16:03:11.76] Domain msntest.serving-sys.com ADDED
[16:03:11.78] Domain telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:11.79] Domain ca.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:11.81] Domain c.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:11.83] Domain aidps.atdmt.com ADDED
[16:03:11.84] Domain view.atdmt.com ADDED
[16:03:11.86] Domain ec.atdmt.com ADDED
[16:03:11.87] Domain c.atdmt.com ALREADY added
[16:03:11.89] Domain db3aqu.atdmt.com ADDED
[16:03:11.89] Domain cdn.atdmt.com ADDED
[16:03:11.90] Domain choice.live.com ADDED
[16:03:11.92] Domain choice.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:11.94] Domain choice.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:11.95] Domain compatexchange.cloudapp.net ADDED
[16:03:11.97] Domain corpext.msitadfs.glbdns2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:11.98] Domain corp.sts.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:11.98] Domain cs1.wpc.v0cdn.net ADDED
[16:03:12.01] Domain df.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.03] Domain e9946.g.akamaiedge.net ADDED
[16:03:12.04] Domain fe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.06] Domain fe3.delivery.dsp.mp.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.08] Domain microsoft-hohm.com ADDED
[16:03:12.09] Domain feedback.microsoft-hohm.com ADDED
[16:03:12.11] Domain feedback.search.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.12] Domain feedback.windows.com ADDED
[16:03:12.12] Domain i1.services.social.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.14] Domain i1.services.social.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.15] Domain i.s1.social.ms.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.17] Domain lb1.www.ms.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.17] Domain legacy-redirection-neurope-prod-hp.cloudapp.net ADDED
[16:03:12.18] Domain oca.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.20] Domain oca.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.22] Domain onesettings-hk2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.22] Domain pre.footprintpredict.com ADDED
[16:03:12.23] Domain preview.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.25] Domain ads.msn.com ALREADY added
[16:03:12.26] Domain rad.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.26] Domain rad.live.com ADDED
[16:03:12.28] Domain b.rad.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.29] Domain b.ads2.msads.net ADDED
[16:03:12.31] Domain b.ads1.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.33] Domain ac3.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.33] Domain a.rad.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.34] Domain cds26.ams9.msecn.net ADDED
[16:03:12.36] Domain secure.flashtalking.com ADDED
[16:03:12.37] Domain static.2mdn.net ADDED
[16:03:12.39] Domain s0.2mdn.net ADDED
[16:03:12.39] Domain redirection.prod.cms.msn.com ADDED
[16:03:12.40] Domain redirection.prod.cms.msn.com.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.42] Domain redir.metaservices.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.43] Domain redir.metaservices.microsoft.com.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.43] Domain redir.metaservices.microsoft.com.edgesuite.net ADDED
[16:03:12.45] Domain wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.47] Domain reports.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.48] Domain services.wes.df.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.48] Domain settings.data.glbdns2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.50] Domain settings.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.51] Domain settings-sandbox.data.glbdns2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.53] Domain settings-sandbox.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.54] Domain settings-win.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.54] Domain schemas.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.56] Domain siweb.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.59] Domain sls.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.59] Domain spynet2.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.61] Domain spynet2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.62] Domain spynetalt.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.64] Domain spynetalt.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.65] Domain spyneteurope.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.67] Domain sqm.df.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.68] Domain sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.68] Domain sqm.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.70] Domain ssw.live.com ADDED
[16:03:12.72] Domain ssw.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.73] Domain statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.75] Domain statsfe1.ws.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.76] Domain statsfe2.update.microsoft.com.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.78] Domain statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.79] Domain statsfe2.ws.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.81] Domain support.msn.microsoft.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.82] Domain watson.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.84] Domain survey.watson.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.86] Domain telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.87] Domain telecommand.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.89] Domain telemetry.appex.bing.net ADDED
[16:03:12.90] Domain telemetry.appex.search.prod.ms.akadns.net ADDED
[16:03:12.92] Domain telemetry.urs.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.93] Domain t.urs.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.95] Domain vortex.data.glbdns2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:12.96] Domain vortex.data.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:12.98] Domain vortex-bn2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:13.00] Domain vortex-cy2.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:13.01] Domain vortex.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.01] Domain vortex-db5.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:13.03] Domain vortex-sandbox.data.glbdns2.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.04] Domain vortex-sandbox.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.06] Domain vortex-win.data.metron.live.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:13.07] Domain vortex-win.data.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.11] Domain watson.live.com ADDED
[16:03:13.12] Domain watson.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED
[16:03:13.14] Domain watson.ppe.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.14] Domain watson.telemetry.microsoft.com ADDED
[16:03:13.15] Domain watson.telemetry.microsoft.com.nsatc.net ADDED

[i] Disable automatic windows update (make search, but you must manually select updates to install)

[i] Exit after 60 seconds, or press any key for exit now
da uno sguardo veloce è possibile notare che il file CMD non ha potuto disinstallare i seguenti update contenenti telemetria:

Update for Windows 7 (KB3080149) - Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB3075249) - Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB3068708) - Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB2882822) - Update adds ITraceRelogger interface support to Windows Embedded Standard 7 SP1, Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2882822" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


non li ha potuti eliminare anche se contenuti all'interno del rollup perchè sono "visti" come unico update da windows (KB3125574)

Immagine


- primo check con WUMT: ci sono 89 update contro i 220/230 circa che mi sarei aspettato post SP1, per un totale di 593MB

Immagine


- installo tutto meno i vari Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool , riavvio e faccio ripartire il file .CMD

Codice: Seleziona tutto

[i] Uninstall evil M$ updates..
[18:51:50.94] Uninstall update KB3080149..
[18:52:02.74] Update KB3080149 not installed
[18:52:02.74] Uninstall update KB3075249..
[18:52:04.49] Update KB3075249 not installed
[18:52:04.49] Uninstall update KB2952664..
[18:52:06.21] Update KB2952664 not installed
[18:52:06.21] Uninstall update KB3035583..
[18:52:07.86] Update KB3035583 not installed
[18:52:07.86] Uninstall update KB3068708..
[18:52:09.53] Update KB3068708 not installed
[18:52:09.53] Uninstall update KB3022345..
[18:52:11.20] Update KB3022345 not installed
[18:52:11.22] Uninstall update KB3021917..
[18:52:12.82] Update KB3021917 not installed
[18:52:12.84] Uninstall update KB2976978..
[18:52:14.48] Update KB2976978 not installed
[18:52:14.49] Uninstall update KB3044374..
[18:52:16.14] Update KB3044374 not installed
[18:52:16.14] Uninstall update KB2990214..
[18:52:23.52] Uninstall update KB971033..
[18:52:47.22] Uninstall update KB3075851..
[18:53:07.47] Uninstall update KB3065988..
[18:53:09.39] Update KB3065988 not installed
[18:53:09.39] Uninstall update KB3083325..
[18:53:11.12] Update KB3083325 not installed
[18:53:11.12] Uninstall update KB3083324..
[18:53:34.72] Uninstall update KB3075853..
[18:53:36.77] Update KB3075853 not installed
[18:53:36.77] Uninstall update KB3065987..
[18:53:54.91] Uninstall update KB3050265..
[18:54:14.97] Uninstall update KB3050267..
[18:54:16.76] Update KB3050267 not installed
[18:54:16.76] Uninstall update KB3046480..
[18:54:18.64] Update KB3046480 not installed
[18:54:18.64] Uninstall update KB2882822..
[18:54:20.38] Update KB2882822 not installed
[18:54:20.38] Uninstall update KB3083710..
[18:54:39.46] Uninstall update KB3083711..
[18:54:41.10] Update KB3083711 not installed
[18:54:41.96] Uninstall update KB3112343..
[18:55:01.24] Uninstall update KB3112336..
[18:55:03.05] Update KB3112336 not installed
[18:55:03.11] Uninstall update KB3135445..
[18:55:20.62] Uninstall update KB3123862..
[18:55:22.27] Update KB3123862 not installed

[i] Disable (hide) uninstalled updates..
[Notice] It can take a lot of time - wait please, or use -d flag for disable this feature..
[18:55:22.32] Disable updates: KB3080149,KB3075249,KB2952664,KB3035583,KB3068708,KB3022345,KB3021917,KB2976978,KB3044374,KB2990214,KB971033,KB3075851,KB3065988,KB3083325,KB3083324,KB3075853,KB3065987,KB3050265,KB3050267,KB3046480,KB2882822,KB3083710,KB3083711,KB3112343,KB3112336,KB3135445,KB3123862..
[18:55:31.66] Updates successfully DISABLED

[i] Disable some windows tasks..
[18:55:31.66] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\AitAgent
[18:55:31.72] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser
[18:55:33.49] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\ProgramDataUpdater
[18:55:33.50] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Autochk\Proxy
[18:55:33.53] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\Consolidator
[18:55:33.53] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\KernelCeipTask
[18:55:33.56] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program\UsbCeip
[18:55:33.59] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\DiskDiagnostic\Microsoft-Windows-DiskDiagnosticDataCollector
[18:55:33.61] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\PI\Sqm-Tasks
[18:55:33.63] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Power Efficiency Diagnostics\AnalyzeSystem
[18:55:33.64] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Windows Error Reporting\QueueReporting
[18:55:33.64] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Maintenance\WinSAT
[18:55:33.66] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ActivateWindowsSearch
[18:55:33.67] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ConfigureInternetTimeService
[18:55:33.69] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\DispatchRecoveryTasks
[18:55:33.69] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ehDRMInit
[18:55:33.70] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\InstallPlayReady
[18:55:33.72] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\mcupdate
[18:55:33.78] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\MediaCenterRecoveryTask
[18:55:33.81] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ObjectStoreRecoveryTask
[18:55:33.86] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURActivate
[18:55:33.91] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\OCURDiscovery
[18:55:34.03] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscovery
[18:55:34.16] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW1
[18:55:34.17] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PBDADiscoveryW2
[18:55:34.25] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrRecoveryTask
[18:55:34.28] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\PvrScheduleTask
[18:55:34.33] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\RegisterSearch
[18:55:34.37] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\ReindexSearchRoot
[18:55:34.44] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\SqlLiteRecoveryTask
[18:55:34.47] Disable task \Microsoft\Windows\Media Center\UpdateRecordPath

[i] Disable services..
[18:55:34.51] Disable service 'Diagtrack'
[18:55:34.56] Service 'Diagtrack' disabled successful
[18:55:34.56] Disable service 'dmwappushservice'
[18:55:34.58] Service 'dmwappushservice' not installed
[18:55:34.58] Disable service 'WerSvc'
[18:55:34.70] Service 'WerSvc' disabled successful

[i] Block M$ servers IP addresses..
[18:55:34.78] Block route to 111.221.29.177
[18:55:34.84] Block route to 111.221.29.253
[18:55:34.86] Block route to 131.253.40.37
[18:55:34.87] Block route to 134.170.30.202
[18:55:34.94] Block route to 134.170.115.60
[18:55:34.97] Block route to 134.170.165.248
[18:55:34.98] Block route to 134.170.165.253
[18:55:35.01] Block route to 134.170.185.70
[18:55:35.05] Block route to 137.116.81.24
[18:55:35.08] Block route to 137.117.235.16
[18:55:35.11] Block route to 157.55.129.21
[18:55:35.14] Block route to 157.55.133.204
[18:55:35.19] Block route to 157.56.121.89
[18:55:35.20] Block route to 157.56.91.77
[18:55:35.23] Block route to 168.63.108.233
[18:55:35.25] Block route to 184.86.56.12
[18:55:35.28] Block route to 185.13.160.61
[18:55:35.31] Block route to 191.232.139.254
[18:55:35.34] Block route to 191.232.80.58
[18:55:35.36] Block route to 191.232.80.62
[18:55:35.37] Block route to 191.237.208.126
[18:55:35.42] Block route to 204.79.197.200
[18:55:35.47] Block route to 207.46.101.29
[18:55:35.48] Block route to 207.46.114.58
[18:55:35.50] Block route to 207.46.223.94
[18:55:35.54] Block route to 207.68.166.254
[18:55:35.61] Block route to 212.30.134.204
[18:55:35.64] Block route to 212.30.134.205
[18:55:35.67] Block route to 23.102.21.4
[18:55:35.72] Block route to 23.99.10.11
[18:55:35.76] Block route to 23.218.212.69
[18:55:35.78] Block route to 64.4.54.22
[18:55:35.79] Block route to 64.4.54.32
[18:55:35.81] Block route to 64.4.6.100
[18:55:35.83] Block route to 65.39.117.230
[18:55:35.84] Block route to 65.52.100.11
[18:55:35.86] Block route to 65.52.100.7
[18:55:35.87] Block route to 65.52.100.9
[18:55:35.90] Block route to 65.52.100.91
[18:55:35.93] Block route to 65.52.100.92
[18:55:35.95] Block route to 65.52.100.93
[18:55:36.04] Block route to 65.52.100.94
[18:55:36.09] Block route to 65.52.108.29
[18:55:36.14] Block route to 65.55.108.23
[18:55:36.20] Block route to 65.55.138.114
[18:55:36.26] Block route to 65.55.138.126
[18:55:36.28] Block route to 65.55.138.186
[18:55:36.31] Block route to 65.55.252.63
[18:55:36.32] Block route to 65.55.252.71
[18:55:36.34] Block route to 65.55.252.92
[18:55:36.37] Block route to 65.55.252.93
[18:55:36.40] Block route to 65.55.29.238
[18:55:36.43] Block route to 65.55.39.10

[i] Add blocked IP adressess to firewall rule..
[18:55:36.85] IP adresses blocked with firewall rule 'Block MS Telemetry': '111.221.29.177,111.221.29.253,131.253.40.37,134.170.30.202,134.170.115.60,134.170.165.248,134.170.165.253,134.170.185.70,137.116.81.24,137.117.235.16,157.55.129.21,157.55.133.204,157.56.121.89,157.56.91.77,168.63.108.233,184.86.56.12,185.13.160.61,191.232.139.254,191.232.80.58,191.232.80.62,191.237.208.126,204.79.197.200,207.46.101.29,207.46.114.58,207.46.223.94,207.68.166.254,212.30.134.204,212.30.134.205,23.102.21.4,23.99.10.11,23.218.212.69,64.4.54.22,64.4.54.32,64.4.6.100,65.39.117.230,65.52.100.11,65.52.100.7,65.52.100.9,65.52.100.91,65.52.100.92,65.52.100.93,65.52.100.94,65.52.108.29,65.55.108.23,65.55.138.114,65.55.138.126,65.55.138.186,65.55.252.63,65.55.252.71,65.55.252.92,65.55.252.93,65.55.29.238,65.55.39.10'

[i] Find and add M$ domains to HOSTS file (block)..
[18:55:36.93] Domain msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:36.95] Domain a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:36.96] Domain a-0001.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.00] Domain a-0002.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.01] Domain a-0003.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.03] Domain a-0004.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.04] Domain a-0005.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.06] Domain a-0006.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.09] Domain a-0007.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.12] Domain a-0008.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.14] Domain a-0009.a-msedge.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.15] Domain a1095.g2.akamai.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.17] Domain ad.doubleclick.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.18] Domain adnexus.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.20] Domain adnxs.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.21] Domain secure.adnxs.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.24] Domain m.adnxs.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.26] Domain ads1.msads.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.29] Domain ads1.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.31] Domain ads2.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.32] Domain flex.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.32] Domain g.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.35] Domain h2.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.37] Domain h1.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.39] Domain a.ads1.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.40] Domain a.ads2.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.42] Domain a.ads2.msads.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.43] Domain live.rads.msn.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.45] Domain ads2.msn.com.c.footprint.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.46] Domain aka-cdn-ns.adtech.de ALREADY added
[18:55:37.48] Domain az361816.vo.msecnd.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.49] Domain az512334.vo.msecnd.net ALREADY added
[18:55:37.51] Domain bs.serving-sys.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.53] Domain msntest.serving-sys.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.56] Domain telemetry.microsoft.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.56] Domain ca.telemetry.microsoft.com ALREADY added
[18:55:37.59] Domain c.msn.com ALREADY added
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[i] Disable automatic windows update (make search, but you must manually select updates to install)

[i] Exit after 60 seconds, or press any key for exit now

visti i 4 update di telemetria non eliminabili e il tempo complessivo impiegato che è stato pressochè uguale per una virtual machine sul mio PC usare il rollup o fare direttamente tutti gli update, ritengo che l'update via rollup sia da evitare ai fini della discussione oggetto del topic: non ho affatto risparmiato tempo e ho dei componenti indesiderati nel PC..... :disapprovato:

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda [Claudio] » 30 mag 2016 21:05

Sai, Gus ..... mi sarei gocato le ..... che sarebbe andata nel modo da te descritto (perdere il controllo su alcuni aggiornamenti e ritrovarsi in men che non si dica, con l'update a Windows 10 impacchettato).
Avessi avuto sottomano un computer con Windows 7 avrei eseguito il tuo stesso test, solo per togliermi la curiosita'.
E voglio dire ...... non e' un caso che il rollup sia stato rilasciato PRIMA della scadenza per il passaggio (ribadisco, NON gratis) a Windows 10; insomma, anche in questo frangente, Microsoft ha fatto una furbata.
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda CBino » 30 mag 2016 22:27

Ho seguito, solo in parte, i vari interventi sull’argomento e questo perché le mie competenze, diciamo informatiche (?), sono limitate e anche il tempo che posso dedicare a simili temi non è tanto purtroppo!
L’elemento principale scatenante di tutto il dibattito (non è il solo ovviamente), se ho ben capito però, è da ricercarsi nella strategia di Microsoft di spingere gli utenti al passaggio a Windows 10.
In questo mio intervento
http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=92202" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ho riportato la procedura seguita per installare Windows 7, su un PC con Windows Vista, e per evitare successivamente la richiesta di installazione o l’installazione di Windows 10.
Considerando che dopo il 29 luglio (la scadenza è ormai prossima) Windows 10 non sarà più gratuito, almeno così dovrebbe essere, e che molti aggiornamenti propedeutici al passaggio dovrebbero essere ritirati o cancellati con appositi aggiornamenti correttivi chiedo.
La procedura da me seguita ha una sua validità?
Rispetto al tema qui trattato e all’altro qui discusso
http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=90568" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
come si pone?
Grazie

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda pegasocv » 30 mag 2016 23:06

...
da uno sguardo veloce è possibile notare che il file CMD non ha potuto disinstallare i seguenti update contenenti telemetria:

Update for Windows 7 (KB3080149) - Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB3075249) - Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB3068708) - Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Update for Windows 7 (KB2882822) - Update adds ITraceRelogger interface support to Windows Embedded Standard 7 SP1, Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2882822.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Ho un pc che è proprio in questa situazione, la soluzione sarebbe disinstallare l'aggiornamento KB3125574 che obbliga a vederli come unico aggiornamento?
Alla fine anche l'aggiornamento KB3125574 dovrebbe finire nella lista nera, o sbaglio?

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda [Claudio] » 31 mag 2016 06:35

Questione (e, anche, la mia valutazione) da rivedere (comprese, almeno in parte, le risultanze del test di Gustavo) ..... in particolare dopo aver letto QUESTO e capito a che tipo di utenza il Convenience Rollup è effettivamente destinato.

Continuo a non capire, invece, l'ostinarsi a non voler eseguire l'aggiornamento a Windows 10.
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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda Gustavo » 31 mag 2016 10:12

Avessi avuto sottomano un computer con Windows 7 avrei eseguito il tuo stesso test, solo per togliermi la curiosita'.
anch'io l'ho fatto solo per quello
E voglio dire ...... non e' un caso che il rollup sia stato rilasciato PRIMA della scadenza per il passaggio (ribadisco, NON gratis) a Windows 10; insomma, anche in questo frangente, Microsoft ha fatto una furbata.
sono incredibili, se ne inventano una nuova in continuazione...pare quasi ci vogliano prendere per sfinimento :eheheh:
Ho un pc che è proprio in questa situazione, la soluzione sarebbe disinstallare l'aggiornamento KB3125574 che obbliga a vederli come unico aggiornamento?
devi provare, considera che stai per disinstallare un update da più di 300MB a seguito del quale hai fatto altri aggiornamenti sopra: io formatterei anzichè riciclare l'installazione attuale.
Alla fine anche l'aggiornamento KB3125574 dovrebbe finire nella lista nera, o sbaglio?
probabilmente sarà trattato come l'aggiornamento cumulativo di IE11 che conteneva tra i vari update uno relativo a W10 e visto che era insieme agli update di sicurezza mi è toccato installarlo. Qui però hai una scelta, cioè non fare il rollup.
...
http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=92202" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
ho riportato la procedura seguita per installare Windows 7, su un PC con Windows Vista, e per evitare successivamente la richiesta di installazione o l’installazione di Windows 10.
Considerando che dopo il 29 luglio (la scadenza è ormai prossima) Windows 10 non sarà più gratuito, almeno così dovrebbe essere, e che molti aggiornamenti propedeutici al passaggio dovrebbero essere ritirati o cancellati con appositi aggiornamenti correttivi chiedo.
La procedura da me seguita ha una sua validità?
Rispetto al tema qui trattato e all’altro qui discusso
http://www.ilsoftware.it/forum/viewtopi ... 51&t=90568" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
come si pone?
Grazie
riepilogo i tuoi passi:
1) format
2) installazione W7 SP1
3) solo update di sicurezza, nascosti tutti gli altri (facoltativi e consigliati)

se ho capito bene hai fatto solo gli update di sicurezza , andando a memoria ce n'era qualcuno di incriminato anche lì :mrgreen:
dovresti provare con il file .CMD per vedere se ti trova qualcosa da disinstallare (devi controllare il report)
Continuo a non capire, invece, l'ostinarsi a non voler eseguire l'aggiornamento a Windows 10.
sta andando a finire così :collasso:
il tempo di manutenzione da dedicare a windows 7 è gradualmente aumentato anzichè diminuire :roll:

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Re: Disabilitare telemetria diagnostica e GWX in Windows 7/8

Messaggioda [Claudio] » 31 mag 2016 10:59

.... sta andando a finire così ..... il tempo di manutenzione da dedicare a windows 7 è gradualmente aumentato anzichè diminuire
Il problema non sono i tempi di manutenzione, ma altro; sai quanto me (e i soliti 4 noti fanatici della sicurezza) che il livello di sicurezza offerto da Windows 10 non è garantito in Windows 7 e Windows 8.1.

Windows 10 e la privacy? certo, bisogna metterci le mani e aver voglia di documentarsi e sbattersi (perché la pappa pronta non si trova - ma sul forum da leggere c'è parecchio, volendo) e, un giusto compromesso tra "sicurezza" e "privacy" si trova.

Poi .... si può anche scegliere diversamente: formattare il computer e reinstallare Windows 7.
Se manca il SP1, basta scaricarlo preventivamente ed installarlo manualmente (stesso discorso per Internet Explorer 11 e Net.Framework 4.6); e, una volta completata l'installazione (tutto rigorosamente offline), disattivare completamente Windows Update.

Avrete un sistema rispettoso della privacy (lato Microsoft .... poi c'è il "resto"), non aggiornato e livelli di sicurezza che rasentano lo zero (e qui entra in gioco il "resto", spesso e volentieri ben più pericoloso di Microsoft).

Ne vale la pena? (ribadito 11mila e rotte letture di post dopo - vedasi 2 aprile scorso).
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